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For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

From the "Straight or Reflex".thread: Tim: "...But speaking of selfbows, the fastest I've ever tested were from straight staves. Lot's of possible reasons why... for another thread some day." Austin:...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

1" optimum string follow is what I meant

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Tom, I think you explained it pretty good, as far as recurves go I think on the average they will be faster than a straight stav bow mainly because most straight bows are overbuilt somewhat. I do like...

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Hellfire,I think it is. It's called the leatherwall, but I think that the leatherwall exists on a site called stickbow. Austin I've been on the leatherwall often enough. I suppose I was asking what...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

You make bows, you break bows. But where they break tells you much! I build my bows as they grow in the tree, meaning the bottom limb is the tree's trunk end and the upper limb the the top end of the...

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Austin: In general principle, any plus-50sg piece of wood is really good for a fast bow. It's just a matter of finding the width at which that piece of wood will take almost no set near the grip and...

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Hellfire, do a search on that site for red oak. If it is still around you'll likely pull it up. I guess I was kind of sucked into the osage is best thing too. Here's why. Back in 95 or 96, I happened...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Austin: Osage is .82sg on average. Those osage bows surely shot slower per pound than all-else-equal, width-adjusted red oak et al. Osage bows generally are slower for this reason. And on average have...

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Tim,Are you getting more speed when you shape the lower ends with concave edges? As you would say, " Like the Eiffel Tower".Thanks,Johnny

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Poke, I have heard lots of guys say that the measure of a true bwyer was by how much string follow his bows had, I say balloney, if a bow takes 0 string follow it is usually way overbuilt. If you...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Tim and Steve,Thanks for the great input on this thread.I'm sure those osage bows I was talking about are overbuilt. I used dimensions just shade under what I would have done with white wood or a...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

The true measure of a bowyer would be to give him a knife and an axe and a piece of wood with a 360 degree propellor twist where the handle and fades should be, and make a bow out of it. I always...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Johnny: Eiffel Towering can add a few fps. But it can cost a bit of speed and add a touch of string follow if not executed well. This is PhD tillering. If you leave the outer limb with normal width...

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Badger, now this may seem lika stupid question, but when you start reducing length to reach peak performance, how do you know when enough is enough, I mean when you reached 175 and it later went down...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Fundin, good question, I often ask myself the same thing and I often go to far and pass the peak point of performance, it is releatively easy to overbuild a bow and then hone it down based on...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

interesting fact, there is building evidence that even in the world of fiberglass bows the straight bows may wind up the fastest. Steve

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Has anyone tested a Mongol bow? I've seen pics from Mongolia of archers shooting these long(66"?) recurves with HUGE siyhas and string bridges. It would seem all this would cancel out the benefits of...

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are you sure they were 66", i saw a documentury about em and from what i remembered theyt were shorter than that.also i read somewere that the chinese made a bow of that size but it shot spear like...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

Most of the asiatic bows I have seen seem to shoot comparable to all wood bows, they do seem much more tolerant of very long draws at which they will outperform their wood counterpart with a shorter...

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

At atarn, they had a testing of mongolian bows, with a very light flight arrow, some of the bows were one hundred sixty pounds. I can't believe the feet per second.

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Re: For Discusssion: Why Straight-Stave Bows are Fast

I saw the tests at atarn and they were quite similar as a good wood bow when figuring grains per pound. He tested the bows at 28" which I didnt think was right, I believe they should have been tested...

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